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Author Topic: Rats 'n' Mice Buys  (Read 4116 times)

Offline Jules

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 10:39:30 AM »
Woah.
As much as I love supporting my local pet store, im no longer buying mice/rats from repeat industry if there the cause.
ARC - im coming your way lol.

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2013, 11:15:10 AM »
I keep thinking I need to breed my own. But I just don't want to spend time looking after them. So for now I'll just keep buying them.

Offline Voodoo

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2013, 11:32:25 AM »
sounds like there would be a good market to breed rats and sell them on the cheap!!
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Offline stu

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2013, 11:57:45 AM »
Rat profitability on the wholesale side is low, even in this high demand market. Mice on the other hand can be quite profitable on a wholesale basis. Remember that the retailers are marking up at least 100% and sometimes substantially more. I completely understand the relevant overheads and profit margins required to make outlets viable but knowing the ins and outs of it all, some of the prices I've seen of recent really are taking the piss.

Offline Voodoo

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2013, 01:26:19 PM »
Stu is there a reason why rats make less profit than mice? is it just the size?
2 Stimmy's 'Zith' and 'Regan'
3 SWCP's 'Ghost' 'Fox' 'Scarecrow'
1 BHP 'Mother'
5 Woma's 'Amon Ra' 'Sunna' 'Pearl' 'Oxum' 'Oxumare'
2 Flat shells 'Squirtle' 'Sherlock'
2 Barking Geckos 'Milli' 'Billy'
2 Marbled Velvet Geckos 'Biggy' 'Smalls'

Offline stu

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2013, 02:04:13 PM »
It's a culmination of quite a few things. Mice  litter much more frequently due to shorter periods between pregnancies. Mice litters generally average twice the volume of rats. Mice are reproductive from a younger age. Have seen them litter at 6 weeks old. Rats take up three times the volume area when setting up the facility and certainly burn through three times the quantity of food. The biggest intangible is that rats can go off the breed so to speak due to a variety of temperamental reasons whereby we never experienced that with the mice. That's the real killer when breeding rats.

Offline Jules

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2013, 02:22:39 PM »
Yeah to much messing around haha.
lll buy them.
ARC cheapest place then??

Offline Voodoo

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2013, 02:46:04 PM »
anyone got any rat breeding setups that they might be looking to get rid of? or any suggestions on good ways to set up colonies?
2 Stimmy's 'Zith' and 'Regan'
3 SWCP's 'Ghost' 'Fox' 'Scarecrow'
1 BHP 'Mother'
5 Woma's 'Amon Ra' 'Sunna' 'Pearl' 'Oxum' 'Oxumare'
2 Flat shells 'Squirtle' 'Sherlock'
2 Barking Geckos 'Milli' 'Billy'
2 Marbled Velvet Geckos 'Biggy' 'Smalls'

Offline urodacus_au

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2013, 04:37:40 PM »
I used to have a couple of 100L storage tubs with 1L rat/ rabbit water bottles through the sides. 6-7 females to one male in each tub then would put the females into 40 odd litre tubs when they were obviously pregnant. Found the females raised more young without the males annoying them. I made a rack out of that slotted angle from Bunnings to stick the tubs in to save on space. Even then it did take up a bit of room but I produced a shit load of rats. Now I have the lab tubs which are great but they're pretty bloody pricey.

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2013, 01:47:27 PM »
Very interesting about the particular supplier boosting prices.  My local pet store in Busso only use that supplier but for the last few months no rats have been available, only mice (hoppers and adult).  I have a 19 month old swcp and he really needs to be getting into his rats but they're never available, told the supplier is having trouble keeping up with demand, which seems funny because I thought rats were quick breeders!!  Wonder if the pet store would be open to a new supplier or I'll need to find a new source.

Offline stu

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2013, 06:15:26 PM »
What prices are you paying for rodents from your pet store in Busso?

Offline Alchemy

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2013, 07:31:04 PM »
I believe a shop had something to do with the Murdoch price raise the first time, so much so they stopped supplies into the reptile industrie an only supplied parks with, Reptiles & Raptors. A lot has happened over the year business is business shop have over heads its hard to keep prices down when you run a shop.

Offline str8jakt

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2013, 09:05:49 AM »
Hi Stu

Off the top of my head I think it's about $25 for a pack of 7 adult mice, I'll double check when I'm home next.

Cheers

Offline stu

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2013, 09:33:46 AM »
Sounds similar, mate said he paid $28 for 7 at another pet shop from the same supplier. If you've got a few other people chasing rodents and want to get them in bulk I can organise them for half that with juvie rats also if you're chasing them.

Offline Jules

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Re: Rats 'n' Mice Buys
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2013, 01:34:33 PM »
Are you able to supply rodents stu?

 

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